Installing OO.o 3.0.0 Onto Hardy Heron (and Intrepid Ibex) [DEPRECATED]
UPDATE: This post is deprecated now that there’s a more automated way thanks to the OpenOffice.org Scribbler PPA at Launchpad. They provide OO.o 3.0.1 to Hardy and Intrepid users through the update system. See the quick details about how to add the PPA to your system here at PPA For OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 For Hardy/Intrepid.
What follows are the original instructions. Users are advised to go to PPA For OpenOffice.org 3.0.1 For Hardy/Intrepid for a better solution.
It’s a good bet that OpenOffice.org won’t be making its way into the Ubuntu 8.04.1 Hardy Heron repositories. A quick look at the package information for openoffice.org shows that Ubuntu devs, while keeping up with security fixes, don’t backport OO.o to previous Ubuntu releases. Considering that I’ve decided to stick with Hardy Heron on my personal laptop until the release of 10.04, I don’t feel like being stuck with OO.o 2.4.1 until then. Not that 2.4.1 isn’t any good. I use it quite a bit, which is why I’d like to stay up-to-date with it.
Since the word got out early that OO.o 3.0.0 was being distributed to the mirrors, I wanted to see if I could get it installed before the official announcement is made. Surprisingly enough, it was easier than I had anticipated. There was only one small snag which was easy enough to fix.
Step 1
First we need to get the new release from the mirrors. Chances are, even after the announcement is made, the download option that OpenOffice.org presents you with may be for the RPM archive with JRE included. Since Ubuntu is Debian based, this will present a difficult challenge. Fortunately, they also offer DEB archives through the mirrors. JRE isn’t included, and not needed, in them but can be obtained through Ubuntu’s repositories if you wish to install it later.
The OpenOffice.org mirror list can be found HERE. Choose the closest location and preferably a HTTP link. Some web browsers don’t work well with FTP and even fewer users have a FTP client installed. Once at the mirror, click on stable/ and then 3.0.0/ and you will be presented with a list of archives. To download the release, click on OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz for i386 installations or OOo_3.0.0_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz for AMD64 installations.
Step 2
Open a terminal window (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) and change to your download location. Extract the files with:
tar xzvf OOo_3.0.0_LinuxIntel_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
or
tar xzvf OOo_3.0.0_LinuxX86-64_install_en-US_deb.tar.gz
You will have a new directory named OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358 with a DEBS/ directory inside. Navigate to that DEBS/ directory.
cd OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358/DEBS/
Inside will be all of the DEBs that you’ll need to install OO.o 3.0.0.
Step 3a
There are two options for Step 3. If OO.o 2.4.1 isn’t installed, proceed to Step 3b.
If you already have OpenOffice.org 2.4.1 installed through Ubuntu’s repos, you will need to remove it. One of the 3.0.0 packages (debian menus) has a conflict with one of the 2.4.1 packages, openoffice.org-core. Removing openoffice.org-core will also remove OO.o 2.4.1 from your computer. Remove OO.o 2.4.1 by using apt-get at the command line:
sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-core
You’ll see apt-get prompt you for removing the other 2.4.1 packages as well. Just hit enter and apt-get will do the rest. Proceed to Step 3b.
Step 3b
Install OO.o 3.0.0 using dpkg. You could try installing each DEB one by one, but dpkg will figure out the correct order for you and do it all automatically. Just issue the following at the command line and watch the magic happen: (UPDATE: More concise command used)
sudo dpkg -i -R .
All the OpenOffice.org 3.0.0 apps can now be launched from the Applications > Office menu. The first time you launch one, you’ll be presented with a setup screen for your personal details and to register with OpenOffice.org.
Now For The Bad News On Dark Themes
Some dark themes still won’t work well with OO.o 3.0.0. You can still apply the workaround I posted HERE, but you’ll need to change the directory locations accordingly. This version of OO.o 3.0.0 installs to a different directory than where Ubuntu installs 2.4.1. Those changes are detailed at the end of the workaround instructions.
Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
Also, this should work for Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid as well, but there’s still a possibility that OO.o 3.0.0 will be included in the final release of Intrepid. If that is the case, I would rather have it installed from Ubuntu through the repositories with the package managers. UPDATE: OO.o 3.0.0 did not ship with Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex, so you’ll have to do it yourself. Just follow the steps above. UPDATE UPDATE: You can use the new Ubuntu Tweak 0.4.2 to have an OO.o 3.0.0 source installed that will update your Intrepid system easily.
Removing OpenOffice.org 3.0
If you no longer want OO.o 3.0 installed, removing it is rather simple. At a command line, just enter the following:
sudo apt-get remove ooobasis3.0-* openoffice.org3* openoffice.org-debian-menus
Afterwards, to put 2.4.1 back use the following command:
sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
Difficulty With ubuntu-desktop
I’ve seen some people stating that the ubuntu-desktop gets removed when removing the OO.o 2.4.1 packages. It really shouldn’t as they are listed as recommended packages and not dependent for ubuntu-desktop. However, in response to a comment below, I experimented with re-installing ubuntu-desktop after OO.o 3.0.0 was installed and detailed it below.




October 14th, 2008 at 8:04 am
thanks for your nice post. it really help me much. previously i was unable to install/replace current 2.4 version on my ubuntu hardy with this 3.0.
regards :)
October 14th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. These instructions worked fine. I did get stuck for a few seconds with regards to step 3b – but it worked fine after I navigated to the DEBS folder and pasted the command you supplied.
October 15th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Thanks for a great walk through! I took the liberty of translating your basic instructions and posted it on the Norwegian OOo forum.
http://www.openofficeorg.no/Forumsider/index.php?topic=359.msg1053#msg1053
Thanks again!
October 15th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
hello, 10x a lot; u cool :)
October 17th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
It looked as though it installed, but going into the Applications>Office applet there are no OpenOffice Apps listed. It is empty. So technically, it didn’t install correctly.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
You can navigate to the openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb package located in the ./DEBS/desktop-integration folder with a file browser and double-click it. The package installer will launch and check on that package’s status. If it installed correctly, it would state that it’s already installed. Gnome can be slow to update the menu sometimes.
However, that package won’t install if you didn’t remove OpenOffice.org 2.4 beforehand as it conflicts with Ubuntu’s openoffice.org-core package. If there is a conflict, the package installer will point that out.
October 17th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Thanks for this fine guide. I followed your instructions on my Ubuntu Hardy machine and everything worked like a charm. The “I know how to install openoffice.org 3.0 on an Ubuntu Hardy machine”-pick-up line will be tested too. I don’t think that’ll work though.
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October 20th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
Step 3b can be simplified to dpkg -i *.deb after moving the menu package into the main folder (from desktop-integration)
October 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
I’ll do you one better. Don’t even move the menu package into the main folder and give it a…
sudo dpkg -i -R .
I caught that after I published the post and just left my original steps as is. But that’s what I get for testing it out in the middle of the night.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Great Post!
I have been working and trying multiple posts for help in the installation and this one works perfectly.
Again please keep posting walk-throughs like this it really make life easier…
By the way, what is the Ubuntu Twek that you have in your desktop?
Thanks,
Herminio
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:02 pm
By the way all the imported fonts from Windows work also out of the box, without having to replace or import them.
Note:
If you have documents created in MS Office with a different font type and you want to use it in Ubuntu or OpenOffice you can just follow this steps:
1. Create a folder under your home folder named .font
herminio@herminio-laptop:~$ mkdir .font
Then just copy-paste all the .tff files from c:\Windows\fonts to this folder and all the fonts will be available in Open Office
Just a quick add to contribute the kb.
Regards!
H.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
That’s Ubuntu Tweak by TualatriX http://ubuntu-tweak.com where you can tweak different areas of Ubuntu from one location. I included it in the screenshot so people could see that I did in fact install OO.o 3.0.0 on Ubuntu 8.04.1.
I did have a quick write-up on Ubuntu Tweak before re-vamping the website, but haven’t gotten to adding it back in. Looks like that’s overdue.
And thanks for the tip about copying over the Windows fonts.
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October 29th, 2008 at 12:49 am
Thank you very much for sharing that piece of advise. It worked perfectly!
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 am
Thank you so much, directions were clear and worked fine and thank you to Mr Moo for the DEBS tip.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Thanks for this post. I installed Ooo 3 in Ubuntu 8.04.1 and working OK. After the removal of Ooo 2.4 ubuntu desktop also got removed. Trying to install this will install back Ooo 2.4 package. Any work around is there to avoid Ooo 2.4 installation.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
I’m not really sure why the ubuntu-desktop is removed for some people. The openoffice.org-* packages are only listed as recommended in relation to ubuntu-desktop and not depends. Removing a recommended package shouldn’t remove any other non-dependent package. On my 8.04.1 systems, I have OO.o 3.0 and ubuntu-desktop installed.
To test out a theory, I first removed the ubuntu-desktop package, which is really just a meta-package but an important one. When I tried to install it back, it too wanted to install the OO.o 2.4 packages and remove the openoffice.org-debian-menus package. That wasn’t going to work. OO.o 2.4 and 3.0 can co-exist on the same machine, but that’s too redundant. And doing so, like this, would require someone to add menu items manually for 3.0. That’s too much work for something that should be simple.
I poked around with apt-get to see if I could trick it into behaving. Since I wanted both ubuntu-desktop AND openoffice.org-debian-menus packages to remain, I tried sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop openoffice.org-debian-menus and hit enter. This made apt-get do a few things except install most of the OO.o 2.4 packages. When it was done, only openoffice.org-base-core and ttf-opensymbol was installed.
If hard drive space isn’t an issue, you can leave those installed or remove them with sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-base-core ttf-opensymbol at the command line. The ttf-opensymbol package is just a set of TrueType fonts for bullets, symbols like Wingdings, and some non-latin characters. The openoffice.org-base-core contains libdba which is a common library used by Writer, Calc, and Base.
Forcing apt-get to install both the ubuntu-desktop and openoffice.org-debian-menus packages, even though one was already installed, seems to have made it ignore the OO.o 2.4 packages that conflicted with the openoffice.org-debian-menus package. Maybe this will help.
November 3rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Mr. Adam thanks for your effort to post the work around to get back the Ubuntu desk top keeping OO.o3 in Hardy (8.04.1). I left the ttf-opensymbol as such and did not harm anything. Once again thanks and I will keep watch on your blog now onwards.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
In the Step 3b dpkg kept searching for the .deb files in vain – the magic happened AFTER I showed dpkg all the way to the home/petr/Desktop/OOO300_m9_native_packed-1_en-US.9358/DEBS (despite the fact that my terminal stood precisely there). Thank you a lot for this article.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:00 am
The dpkg application needs to know the location of the deb packages. You can do that a number of ways including the way you described. The line in Step 3b includes the current directory location at the end of the command line which is symbolized by the . or period punctuation mark. It’s quite possible to overlook that.
November 10th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I am not sure if this is a unresolvable bug but I think is worth mentioning. With OO3 in Ubuntu 8.04 (I mean the one from OO not the Ubuntu patched one which is not existing) multimedia files won’t play in Impress. And this is quite bad presentation wise. Even after installing JMF manually it does not work.
I read that the Ubuntu version bind to gstreamer to render multimedia while the official one binds only to JMF … which I cannot get to work under Ubuntu (with OO).
November 14th, 2008 at 9:25 am
it was installed without any error.But previosly i had openoffice 2.2 version.Now when i try to open OOo3 only the starting wizard came & no action is occured after that.
Means openoffice not opening only intial wizard has came…
November 14th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
Thanks! I tried other post’s instructions before, but they broke my desktop. With your help, everything went OK. Thanks again.
November 16th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Thanks for making such a daunting task so easy and pleasurable. It worked fine.
November 17th, 2008 at 12:59 am
I have tried many time to install oo3 and failed.
Your help has been invaluable.
I know nothing about linux/ubuntu. CAN YOU HELP with this problem…..
How do i “replace /usr/lib/openoffice/program in the instructions with /opt/openoffice.org3/program”.
I have NO idea where to go or how to do it.
November 17th, 2008 at 2:09 am
When I said “replace /usr/lib/openoffice/program in the instructions with /opt/openoffice.org3/program” I was referring to the instructions for the dark theme workaround, which are found HERE. Since OO.o 3.0.0 from these instructions installs to a different location than your original 2.4.1, you would need to change the instructions in the dark theme workaround accordingly. I should probably make that statement a bit more clear.
November 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Thanks, this worked great. I had to reinstall openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb after everything to make the menu items appear.
December 7th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was trying to install OO03 during the last two weeks!!!!!! You can figure out my happiness!!!!
I just installed Kubuntu 8.10 with OpenOffice 2.4 and tried all instructions published. Only those ones work fine!!!!
December 23rd, 2008 at 10:41 am
Thanks
December 30th, 2008 at 1:13 am
Great info! One question: I received an error message regarding openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.deb. I see where F. Wright reinstalled that to get it to work. I’m new to Ubuntu – how do I reinstall that specific package?
Thanks!
December 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Just use dpkg to install that one single package.
sudo dpkg -i /pathtofolder/openoffice.org3.0-debian-menus_3.0-9354_all.debChange /pathtofolder/ to where ever yours is located. If you’re still getting an error, then you still have the Ubuntu package that conflicts with this OO.o package. See step 3a, above.
January 3rd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Mabuhay! Thank you for the informative post. I was desperately looking for instructions on how to update openoffice 2.4 to 3.0 in my hardy box and yours helped a lot. Very clear instructions and straightforward. God bless you always. Maraming salamat po.
January 18th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
thank a lot
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February 1st, 2009 at 11:22 am
I’m closing comments for this as there is a better way of installing OpenOffice.org onto Hardy now. See the UPDATE notice at the top of the post.
Thank-you all for the comments.